The Cross-Cultural Thang

OTR Girl has a great post up about her marriage to Jrex, a Korean-American guy, and her experiences of cross-cultural marriage thus far. It got me to thinking about M. and our marriage, which is - obviously - also cross-cultural (although I guess you could argue that it’s all kind of muddled; but, then, we’re all complex creatures).

When I first met M., we were both living in Tokyo - he was working for Humongous European Technology Firm, and I was a lowly grad student living on the dime of the Ministry of Education, etc. Maybe it was just the contrast between M., the American, and the average Japanese people we saw and interacted with every day, but when I first met him I thought M. was American to a fault. He was very talkative (turned out to be nervousness; his natural state is fairly taciturn), toothy (as in, he smiled a lot - again, nervousness), and he wore this LOUD shirt that fairly screamed AMERICAN (I still hate the shirt. It’s not as loud as I remember it - in fact, it’s fairly monochromatic - but it’s got all these pictures and stuff on it, and it really, really does not suit him).

Even after we’d been dating for awhile in Japan, I still saw him as being pretty American. I think it comes from a few things; while he was in Japan, M. did a lot to recreate the comforts of his American upbringing: keeping a full supply of American-made Coke on hand; ordering bagels, muffins, toiletries, etc., from the Costco out in Saitama; dining at foreign-owned restaurants (Good Honest Grub in Ebisu, among others) - that kind of thing. He had a subscription to the English-language satellite channels (which I’d never seen before I met him), which meant a steady stream of CNN International, BBC World, AXN, FOX (entertainment, not news!), you name it. Put simply, he had the single most American household I’d ever experienced in Japan. Ever.

Oh, sure, there were hints of his Asian-Americanness. The fact that no meal is complete without rice on the side (inclusive of things like Hamburger Helper, which comes with its own starch). The fact that one of his perfect meals (it all comes back to food) involves Japanese sweet egg, seasoned seaweed, and shoyu. His never-ending search for the perfect bulgogi (there was a place up the road from his apartment, until it closed, that did a pretty mean one). But it all seemed, at the time, like stuff he might have picked up in Japan; I mean, I had some pretty Japanese quirks at the nine-year point, myself.

And the newness of our relationship translated into a kind of carefulness that masked other aspects of his Asian Americanness. He was very “romantic” (I, for the record, am not), and lavished affection and presents on me (he also was pretty liberal with his money at this point*). We seldom argued, and I felt like he was fairly complimentary of me, in general.

Fast forward a few years, one wedding, and 1.5 kids later. Turns out he’s MUCH more Asian American than I ever thought when we were living in Japan, and it’s taken some getting used to (for the record, I’m pretty sure I come with a pretty steep learning curve as well, but I think mine is less “whiteness” than stuff having to do with my sometimes nearly debilitating lack of self-confidence). His parents, actually, were the least of it; I pretty much expected them to be relatively traditional (they are), and since I’d been through de facto Asian daughter (in-law) training since I was 10, by virtue of all my Chinese aunties and uncles and Japanese mothers and fathers teaching me how “proper” women behaved, I’ve (so far) been able to pretty much glide through our visits. Mainly, I keep pretty quiet, make sure M. and MM are attended to (which is what I’m doing here at home too, only there I do it without bitching about it the whole time), surreptitiously clean when I get the chance, and do a lot of casino driving. Sure, they weren’t happy about me in the beginning - well, once they got over the shock of M. having a girlfriend in the first place - but they love MM, and that’s good enough for all of us.

The biggest challenges have been with M. himself. As OTR Girl wrote, compliments simply do not happen around here, unless I’ve been campaigning for them to the extent that M. remembers to throw one my way. As far as he’s concerned, they sound false and weird. Or, as he says, “the compliment is implied.” Since he attributes his oh-so-positive outlook on the world to his Koreanness, I’ll blame that for his constant nihilism, which gets old fast if you’re living with it all the time (case in point: this morning he tells me that we’re running short of money this month. I panic, since when I checked yesterday things looked fine. I go and look online at our bank account, and we’re still fine. If, for example, something says $689 (it didn’t - this is just an example), HE sees $500; I see $11 dollars short of $700). I don’t think I’ll ever break him of this, but I’d just as soon he didn’t pass it along, you know?

And then there’s the disability/eldest (”intellectual”) son equation. M. likes to have things done for him - never mind we live in a one-floor house, specially rented for his mobility needs (well, that and it’s nice not to have to deal with stairs with a toddler in the house). For the longest time, I was sure that it was more related to his disability, and it is to a certain extent. But I’ve noticed, on our visits to his parents’ place, that he sits around even more there - becomes immobile, if you will. Helping out around the house is pretty much unheard of - at least, from what I’ve seen. I’m just hypothesizing here, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he was pretty much groomed to succeed in school - again, not sure if it’s because he’s the oldest son or because he’s disabled, or both. Of course, he tells stories of manual labor in childhood, so I can only go by what I see. Personally, I think it’s at least partly cultural. And it bumps right smack up against my own Protestant Work Ethic upbringing (not that I’m not lazy as sin - I am, believe me - but my parents value nothing so much as sweat and hard labor. I think my Dad, in particular, had an early hard time with seeing M. sit around, but this has been substantially diminished by seeing him, more recently, work his butt off in the office and for school; M. works hard, but it’s largely intellectual labor).

At the end of the day, the challenges are worth it (at least, for me; I’m not sure the challenges of living with me are worth it - especially these days, when I kind of float through the world on a cloud of seething hormones, seeking out husbands to henpeck). But there definitely have been challenges - more than I ever would have thought. I sometimes wonder, if he’d married some white chick who was completely clueless about things Asian, would she have had an easier (ignorance is bliss) or harder time? Conversely, I can definitely say that M. is infinitely - incalculably - better for me than the guy who asked me, once, if Japan was a part of China.

*Liberal with it - as opposed to now, where he’s constantly convinced we’re on the brink of financial ruin - because he was single, this might be his only relationship ever, and he was determined to get the most out of it before it inevitably ended.  And we’re all just going to die anyway.  It seemed romantic at the time; now that I know the thinking that went on behind the scenes, so to speak, it’s kind of weird.  Still have the presents, though; I’m not stupid. ;)

4 Comments to “The Cross-Cultural Thang”

  1. MdG Says:

    Sarge is always amazed at how my mom caters to my dad, at dinner she’s always jumping up to his every request, and he never helps out. He’s on crutches, but I’m thinking that if he’s able to lay irrigation and plant their entire 1 acre lot he’s able to take care of himself. It’s just the way that she is, and well, the way that he is.
    Prime example, the last time we were home, mom was somewhere, and dad was ready for breakfast or something, and kept hinting around to me. But typical Japanese man fashion, he wouldn’t tell me what he wanted to eat. So he ended up waiting another 15 minutes for mom to make him his meal. I am so *NOT* a good Japanese wife/daughter.
    I do take care of Sarge alot, but no where near the level that my mom does for my dad. My mom actually told me when I first got married that I should wear make-up every day to make myself look pretty for my husband. I think I actually laughed in her face. So bad. And, I rarely put on make-up, and Sarge does not notice.
    Does he have clean underwear? Check.
    Dinner is on the table? Check….well, most of the time.
    Is the house clean? Che…well, on Sunday’s it is, the rest of the week is iffy.
    Is the child running amok and dumb as a rock? No!
    Bills paid? Gas in the car? Check, and check.

    Lucky for me, I’m totally Americanized, and have just enough of a Japanese wife in me that Sarge feels pampered. Granted he came from a home full of women who loved to cater to him as well, so he’s used to it, but he does not expect it.

    This is getting way TL;DR, and confusing.

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  2. Sunny Says:

    “the compliment is implied.” And there you have it folks. A documented difference. Where we Westerners expect folks to say what they mean and mean what they say, Over in the Asia places (well, at least Korea) the LISTENER is supposed to hear between the lines and DIVINE what the speaker meant or felt. Guess we’ll have to do as Rachel said in her comment to OTR girl and just just shrug it off and an “Oh well, that’s culture for ya.”

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  3. OTRgirl Says:

    I love reading where your marriage has been cross-cultural. It’s fascinating!

    I didn’t address the amount of work he does if it’s just me vs at his parents. (He reads my blog and gets a bit huffy if it sounds like I’m embarrassing him in front of the masses). It really freaked me out the first time we visited his parents and he just lay around his bedroom watching TV. (Note: his sister’s room has no TV) All of a sudden he was a sullen, boring lump. Weird.

    It’s taken years of me alternately whining and pouring on the compliments, but at this point he does most of the grocery shopping (he drives our one car…), much of the cooking (creative outlet for him) and some of the dishes. I still do all the major cleaning, but for an Asian husband, I’ve got it made!

    With the compliment thing my Mom advised me early on not to yield to the temptation to treat him as he treats me. “Invest in the marriage you hope to have, not the one that currently exists”. I’ve complimented him for 10 years now and it seems like, maybe, he might believe some of them at this point. I’m also fairly obvious about asking for compliments. He’s looking at me fondly and I say, “Can you put words on that look?” He says, “I love you” and I smile and say, “Why?”. I say something that puts myself down a little and he says nothing, so then I say, “Honey, this is the part where you disagree and tell me the opposite!” He usually grins and says exactly what I just said.

    Sorry, this is getting long… The other thing I’ve done, for two Christmas gifts and one birthday gift I told him the only thing I wanted from him was a written card. And he wrote me poems. It’s sad that I have to put THAT kind of weight on how important words are, but it worked.

    He’s definitely learned to give me words. Not as often as I’d like them, but much better than at the beginning. On the other hand, I’m still bad at doing all the little acts of service that make him feel loved. Oops.

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  4. Rhiannon Says:

    Oh yes, the no compliments thing…grrrr
    Gi Jye doesn’t help around the house either, but he takes care of us and loves the kids, so what can I complain about….
    It certainly isn’t what I expected, but it;s fine. And I don;t need fake compliments if you know what I mean.

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